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Original OLP Lineup Plays ED Fest... Sort Of
06/04/09 11:12am
by Kate Harper (CHARTattack)
You'll be able to see all four members of Our Lady Peace's "classic lineup" at the same venue this summer... but they're not playing on the same day and there's no "reunion" of any sort happening.
Our Lady Peace, Crash Karma — that ridiculous band featuring Edwin, ex-Tea Party drummer Jeff Burrows, former Zygote bassist Amir Epstein and former OLP guitarist Turner — and Big Wreck afterthought Thornley are among the '90s Can-Rock-related acts that will play this year's Edmonton ED Fest. K-OS, Pilot Speed, Arkells and Hinder are also on the bill.
Separate stages will showcase Aboriginal musicians and children's entertainers, respectively.
ED Fest 2009 runs from July 17 to 26 at Edmonton's Capital Ex, and as usual it features rides, a shopping boutique, an Aboriginal heritage, art and culture exhibition and more. Admission is $8 a day for adults over 13 years old and $3 for young-uns aged seven to 12. Kiddies younger than six years of age get in free. All-day ride passes cost you $38 and include gate admission. All the musical entertainment is free with gate admission and takes place at the Northlands Grounds.
Oh, and in case you're wondering whether Crash Karma will ever release an album, their Facebook group page says they are "putting the finishing touches" on it, but are taking some time off so Epstein can go on honeymoon.
What will said album sound like? Well, according to Crash Karma's Facebook page, their sound is described as ""sound waves that make love to your ear (even when your not in the mood)."
Here is the schedule for the main stage at this year's ED Fest:
July 17
K-OS with Divine Brown
July 18
Pilot Speed
Arkells
July 19
Hinder with The Ending
July 20
Emerson Drive with Adam Gregory
July 21
Marianas Trench
July 22
David Clayton Thomas with Powder Blues
July 23
Our Lady Peace with Mother Mother
July 24
Paul Brandt with Aaron Lines
July 25
Thornley with Crash Karma
July 26
TBA
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- LoveKarma33
- Sun, 06/07/2009 - 3:53am
- jenipher
- Sun, 06/07/2009 - 9:50am
Not quite sure where all your hostility comes from in the comment "Crash Karma- that ridiculous band featuring Edwin, ex-Tea Party drummer Jeff Burrows, former Zygote bassist Amir Epstein and former OLP guitarist Turner" as well as the fact that I'm sure the guys are pleased to know now that they are working on what seems to be YOUR schedule of what should be more then ample amounts of time to create THEIR music, and will get right on top of pushing that album out for YOUR pleasure. After all im sure you have tons of knowledge in playing, recording and mixing being that you are a journalist *sarcasm ladden*
I refuse to say "I hope you eat your words" because basically I know you will. And soon enough you will be trying to backpeddle fast. Not everyone has to be afan of past or even present work by ANY artist, but somehow I dont hear that in your words. What i do hear is a bitterness, as if someone is jealous, or got shot down at some point by someone, perhaps, in what is now Crash Karma. Sadly, for the record, you are NOT doing a professional job when you write in that manner.
Personally, I am looking forward to hearing them LIVE at Friendship Festival on July 4th, so i CAN get a taste first hand for myself.
Have a peachy day.
- melissa Donato
- Sun, 06/07/2009 - 10:24am
Wow... Kate, you're an idiot! Judging by the way you write your opinions your mouth is probably big enough to insert both feet, so when the time comes and Crash Karma make it, I hope you'll be ready to do so! This really doesn't sound like a write up about an up coming festival, this sounds like the personal opinions of someone that simply doesn't know any better and should think before they type.
Poor journalism Kate!
- johnpapa
- Sun, 06/07/2009 - 11:14am
I predict this band will be as big as Edwin and the Pressure.
Also, "sound waves that make love to your ear (even when your not in the mood)."is a fitting way to describe their sound, because this won't be the first time my ears have been raped by these musicians.
- LoveKarma33
- Mon, 06/08/2009 - 12:18pm
Even more amazing than Kate Harper's poorly done journal skills is the fact that there are people out there shallow enough to mark that they actually like it. Scary to think people out there are so judgemental without even hearing the music first.
- billyslicer
- Mon, 06/08/2009 - 2:50pm
in defense of all journalists, rock critics, music writers, people with taste in music, etc ...
these bands were cheesy when they were together. grandiose, boisterous, and canadian. but they were HUGE in the last decade because of these things. as someone who discovered music in the 90s, there were no better bands.
but then we grow up. we get a little wiser. we realize that these guys are wanky, self-indulgent and lame. without hearing a note of something such as this, or another 'super group' (chickenfoot?) i can easily say that raping of the ears is something i would rather avoid.
as music journalists, we listen to more music than anyone. bad stuff jumps out at us all day long. we get lucky and SOMETIMES an actual artist does surprise us.
and as for 'when these guys make it big' or whatever you said, they did make it big. they are in has been land. track record for bands like this: big sugar morphed into grady ... nada. trevor hurst leaving econoline crush to do 'hurst'? negative. edwin working as a bartender in toronto? returning to his roots! he did start out as a chippendale's dancer, if i remember correctly.
in the 90s, you couldn't look at a cover of chart without seeing the smiling (or glaring) eyes of the tea party, IME, OLP ... etc. as much as i enjoyed these artists the first time around ... it's just a sad truth that in canada, there are no comebacks.
except for hugh dillon. that was a re-invention.
- superconnected
- Mon, 06/08/2009 - 2:55pm
Johnpapa & lemon, I couldn't have said it better myself!
The last time any of these musicians put out anything noteworthy was close to a decade ago! I think they have had plenty of time/chances to make decent music.
According to wikipedia, Edwin works as a bartender in a TO bar...??
Also, unless this article has been recently edited... what's the deal with all the nagging on Kate?? So what, she wrote that the band was ridiculous! It's one word! I suppose we shouldn't be too surprised for all the hate against her.. recall the readers year end poll where David Usher somehow blew everyone else out of the water. Put your hand up if you didn't even know he released an album last year...
- LoveKarma33
- Mon, 06/08/2009 - 10:48pm
Wow- you guys really must be some miserable people who hate their jobs to criticize and shread people and music the way you do. It almost sounds like you guys are jealous of the attention they got back then, esp. since you seem to resent that they were on every cover of chart. Being envious is okay when your younger, but then we grow up. The name of the new band should tell you how much they have grown, but why do I think the name of the band is above your comprehension? I'm sure you guys are experts in music that's why you're journalists instead of musicians, right? Do you have any idea how low and dirty it was to bring up Edwin's past, which I'm sure he isn't ashamed of and why should he be? Because you say so? Ha! lmao It does however show everyone just how immature you guys really are and how unsuccessful you are at fair and decent journalism and writing skills! I hear he makes some pretty good drinks, but read in another article that he was thinking about giving up that gig(you'd know this if you did more research like a good journalist does) if this band became successful, and it will become successful because they have an army of people who DO believe in them, regardless of your opinions of them, which will only give them fuel to do even better because you say they can't! They'll show you and the rest of the world that they not only CAN but just did! Not as in has been, as in right now and in your face! Rush got told the same crap by critics and where are they now? Oh yeah- only Canada's Best Band! : ) So, from one writer to another- if I were you guys- I'd start thinking about delivering pizzas or flipping burgers, 'cause at your rate- you'll produce nada, negative(your words!) 
- dirtydirtybaby
- Tue, 06/09/2009 - 1:16am
Holy SH*T. Am i missing something? Have any of you heard any Crash Karma songs? Was there an exclusive release only to a handful of writers from Chart? How can anybody say anything negative about a band they have never heard?Preposterous! This is the ultimate example of close minded, amateur journalism! Does chart attack hire any qualified journalists, or only these pretentious 'i love tokyo police club cause they suck' halfwits.
Our Lady Peace is still a band, so the term 'has been' is a little premature, isn't it? The tea party only broke up in 2004, i think. Also, a bit short of a 24 aren't ya? Between OLP, IME and TTP, they were the 3 biggest bands in Canada from the mid 90's until the present. We are NOT talking about bands from the 80's or 70's 'trying' to make a comeback, as jackass number 1 put it. These were the biggest canuck bands, period. They sold over 7 or 8 million albums between the three of them alone! Thats more then the entire Edgefest lineup this year! How can you say that you hated the bands that they came from, and that is all you need to know in establishing your opinon about this new band. You have no idea what type of chemisty these 4 guys will create together! But of course, you are a big time Canadian music lover/journalist, who self admitted to loving these bands when he was still young and unjaded. I assume you and your grandparents share the same musical taste now.....so sad. Even if you thought that OLP, IME and TTP were shit, you still really have no right to judge a combination of musicians from these bands without ever hearing their music! The bass player was in a wikked band called Zygote! Ever hear of them? They weren't a 90's can rock band but I'm sure they suck because of the bass players involvement with the other three guys, right? Does his involvement in this band not count in the creation of this band? All you can say, at most, is that you weren't a fan of their past bands. Wait until you hear something before you knock it!
This is why Canadian press is a joke, and why Canadian bands have such a hard time succeeding internationally. All of you wannabe journalists, think you are gods gift to music, yet you cant play a single note on guitar. You think that your bullshit college diploma from seneca amounts to something more then a waste of time and money. You are fickle, in every sense of the word. "I love Dinosaur Jr, and Green Day', until Green Day sells 1 million albums, then all of a sudden they suck. The only thing that is 'ridiculous' is that you were ever hired by Chart Attack with your lack of credibility and your poor writing skills. The joining of musicians from past acts does not disqualify Crash Karma from rockin hard!
I personally only liked I mother earth, but i will listen and decide for myself whether or not I like crash karma, not because of the bands they once played in, or which underground music scene they came from. Instead, I will make a fair judgement after i hear the songs.
- billyslicer
- Tue, 06/09/2009 - 4:42pm
how can anyone be defending this band if no one has heard them? you're saying we can't trash them having not heard them? how can you defend them? this is insane and i long for the magazine, the letters to the editor page, the snappy comebacks.
there are people who like music and people who don't. those that don't buy the shitty albums in mass quantities (how many records have nickelback sold, and how many people actually admit to liking them?)
to talk about me or the others 'not being able to play guitar' is a little silly as well. i could be as awesome as crash karma ... but you wouldn't know.
besides, people are constantly trashing matt good for similar reasons, and he sold the most albums in the late 90s ... i don't know.
music is supposed to unite people. yes, it tears us apart, but ... *sigh*
there is lots of music. people have different tastes. that's why there is so much music out there. something for all of us, as brendan said.
but when you start bringing in peoples' credentials, saying who is qualified for what ... we're a bunch of assholes on a message board! i write and photograph for winnipeg's urban/music weekly, yet i'm a film major. i also write for bruce mcdonald and his new hard core logo project ... and i don't want to drop names (yes, i just did) but the fact that he likes and has read my writing, going so far as to call me his new favourite writer ... that's all the qualifications i need.
i'm done with this conversation, i feel i've made my points. thank you for the support, superconnected. i just wanted to defend kate's side. g'nite everybody.
- LoveKarma33
- Tue, 06/09/2009 - 9:13pm
So, you assume we are all chartattack readers- with your: "chartattack readers, never change" comment above, and I would say to chartattack and it's writers- Don't flatter yourself- I'm only on here because I'm a Crash Karma fan and clicked on a link- after hearing that this is how some of your writers behave- I'm definetely not interested in becoming a chartattack reader, anyways. The name of your magazine says it all- attack is in the name and that's exactly what you did to Crash Karma without hearing a single sound that these four men can produce together- how can we defend them without hearing them? Same way you guys seem to "attack" them! ; ) One last thing, in respone to the last message and this line: but when you start bringing in peoples' credentials, saying who is qualified for what ... we're a bunch of assholes on a message board! Just thought I should remind you that your credentials were not criticized until AFTER some of the more childish writers in your bunch started bringing up Edwin's past jobs- like it was relevant to begin with. When someone brings up my past to justify themself- maybe it's me, but I consider the person who does it an asshole- so if the shoe fits? A good writer shouldn't have to stoop that low to turn heads and if they do- they aren't that good at what they do. I understand that you just want to defend Kate's side, but maybe Kate's lesson here is be careful what you say- or if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. The anger and hype you are getting from some of your readers is your own karma coming back on you- who sarted insulting who first? If you writers can't take the heat then don't write!
- solaris24
- Tue, 06/09/2009 - 11:03pm
- dirtydirtybaby
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 12:10am
ou can't hate a band you never heard. You also cant like a band you never heard. The difference between the two is that the former was instigated by a professional writer, and the latter are fans of Crash Karma's past music history. I am writing here not because I am a fan of a band i have never heard, but because i criticize the writing's of a girl who should know better, considering she writes for a music magazine. People rag on bands i like all the time, but for a music journalist to shred a band she hasn't heard? Thats like getting caught for plagiarism. How embarrassing. She should be embarrassed. And if you want true criticism 'Billyslicer', you are a terrible writer. Your punctuation is at the level of a 9 year old. Your grammar and syntax is quite adolescent, and your comprehension skills are worse then your writing! I said, quite clearly, that I would listen to crash karma and form my opinion after i hear their music. Your response to that was, 'how can you like crash karma if you havent heard them'. Not quite as clever and you thought yourself to be little boy. I am not a writer, but clearly I would have no problem writing for this magazine, and for your little friend Bruce, i guess for a guy that hasn't done anything since 1996, it wouldn't take much to impress him. Do i sound familiar? What was the word used to describe someone who had a successful movie over 10 years ago??? Oh yeah, now i remember, a 'has been'. Last thing i wanted to mention, is that a real writer investigates points that they represent as facts. Matthew Good was not the best selling rock band in the 90's. I am pretty sure that Our Lady Peace out sold every rock band back then.
I also think its funny that people feel compelled to stand up for the writer who embarrasses herself in that article. You are defending a woman who is being criticized for criticizing a band she has never heard. Strange.
- chica
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 12:33am
- suckingalemon
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 8:16am
- UndressYourSoul
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 11:13am
This whole discussion was pretty fun to read, I admit. The lengthy, "You can't judge because you haven't heard their music!" is totally contradicted that that side of the argument hasn't heard a great number of Crash Karma's music either.
It was interesting, to say the least. I get where both sides are coming from.
Can't we all get along?
- billyslicer
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 11:48am
tracey fragments
pontypool
love crimes of gillian guess
picture claire
a ton of television including .... muthafuckin degrassi
also, just as it is for canadian musicians, it isn't as easy to get things made in canada. pontypool was in development for ten years ...
but like i said .... your opinion doesn't matter. i'm not going to bother with punctuation on here, it's a message board! people are constantly throwing the wrong 'your' around on here, who gives a goshdarn?
if you want some criticism, you write in epic paragraphs. you're not bret easton ellis.
edwin didn't even write any songs in IME. his first album was mostly leftover glueleg songs. i remember one song he wrote, something about being a cheese grater. he is ridiculous.
and yes - OLP were the nickelback of the 90s. we all remember that video with the kid from serial joe in drag.
this conversation is a drag. it's dragging. this is epic. i'm sure brophy is loving this.
so much so, that i'm just noticing what the daily poll is, possibly a reference to my comment haha. let's go vote, shall we?????
- Aaron Brophy
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 11:53am
FYI, the song is "Firecracker" and features the even better line "I'm a big hairy wookie."
I'm a compulsive liar
I'm a fast driver
She's the next flavor
He's a lifesaver
I'm a taxpayer
I'm a sooth sayer
She's a figure skater
He's a major player
Fucked again
Yes, I'm fucked again
I'm a firecracker
I'm a firecracker
Let's take a spin
I'm on fire again
I'm a cheese grater
I'm a happy labor
She's a gold digger
He's a star maker
You're a ball breaker
I'm a pallbearer
She's a party favor
And he's a carpetbagger
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Fucked again
Yes, I'm fucked again
I'm a firecracker
I'm a firecracker
Let's take a spin
I'm on fire again
Light me up
Let's take a spin
I'm on fire again
She's a sex junkie
She's a tough cookie
I'm a raw rookie
I'm a big hairy wookie
Fucked again
Yes, I'm fucked again
I'm a firecracker
I'm a firecracker
Let's take a spin
I'm on fire again
Take a spin
Fucked again
Yes, I'm fucked again
- UndressYourSoul
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 12:06pm
"and yes - OLP were the nickelback of the 90s. we all remember that video with the kid from serial joe in drag."
Pardon me, but lolwut? OLP were not the Nickelback on the 90s. They at least have some musical credibility - or at least had musical credibility in the 90s. What does Superman's Dead have to do with Nickelback?
Side note: That video still scares me. It's so, so creepy.
- billyslicer
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 12:14pm
OLP were a band that were FORMED by the record label, the members never having met prior to being lumped in a room together. my apologies, they are more likened to s club 7.
my favourite part of this whole thing is that a) i like mike turner and took his side when he was 'forced' out of OLP and b) that i've been defending kate, bruce and myself to someone with the screen handle 'dirty dirty baby'. jeepers!
but yes - aren't those 'firecracker' lyrics amazing? remember that time chart got a bunch of poets together to critique rock lyrics? memories ...
- UndressYourSoul
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 12:43pm
Mike Turner and Raine Maida had met before that - they were in a band called As If.
I love Mike too, although nobody knows exactly what went down in the band when Mike left, but I'm sure we all have an idea. *Cough* Bob Rock *Cough* Raine.
- billyslicer
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 12:59pm
yeah, first arnold lanni had his control, then it was bob rock. i had forgot mike and raine were friends before that.
one time, chantal's brother staggered into musicworld and was rambling about how it was HIS idea to kick out mike, HIS idea for raine to go solo, all of OLP's decisions were his ... all this while asking to listen to van halen's greatest hits vol. 1 ... so as he's about to put on the headphones, he's saying, "me, i get none of the credit. all i get is 'eruption'" ... priceless.
also, upon re-reading dirty dirty baby's attack on my grammar, i find a bunch of errors in their writing.
i think we should go comment on a story about lil wayne or something now.
- superconnected
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 1:11pm
How do people not know who Bruce McDonald is? His 'Rawside of...' were amazing, especially the Brendan Canning one. Beautifully shot.
Please no more talk of lyrics. I had the song 'Alive' stuck in my head yesterday afternoon and it's trying to creep its way back in today.
- girlgurl
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 1:48pm
- solaris24
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 4:06pm
"Who the hell ya think you are?!"
Hey Billy, since you're working with the director, any details on the HCL sequel(s)?
And to get one more jab in, "Crash Karma" is exactly the kind of awful name you'd expect a 90s supergroup to have.
- dirtydirtybaby
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 4:43pm
What a stupid argument. I did NOT want to get involved in an argument about music. This, unfortunately, is not about music, its about a musician's past and a dumb writer who took a shit without the toilet bowl underneath her. Shitting on Crash Karma is stupid because NO MUSIC IS YET AVAILABLE!!!!!!!! PERIOD. Argument over. Anyone who is arguing differently is retarded. Done and done! At least wait until there is a release so you can pretend that you've heard it, and then you can insult their music all day. But just know that YOU are a fake. The writer of this article, is a FRAUD. And Chart Attack is weak for hiring morons. Furthermore, I do not represent myself to be a writer, or a journalist, so I am at liberty to write as shit as I'd like. YOU on the other hand, made claim to be this amazing writer, yet you write at a substandard level. I'm not trying to attack you personally, just your writing skills and your defending mindless writers.
Good point about Edwins Lyrics, not the best. But once again, this is not Edwin and the Pressure, its Crash Karma. If Bands were solely judged on their mistakes, instead of their endeavor's, we wouldnt have a whole shit load of great bands that even our little hipster billyslicer likes!!!! BTW, i hope you don't call your dick Billy...
I actually really like the name CRASH KARMA. Its not trying to be witty, or clever, just a band name. I like.
- LoveKarma33
- Wed, 06/10/2009 - 9:14pm
What's even more ridiculous than your prejudgements of Crash Karma is your new daily poll- talk about ridiculous. You writers are as ridiculous as your ridiculous magazine. It's just one word- waaa waaa waaa. For the record- I've heard a small clip of their music and WOW- looks like this is a case of all of you, esp. Kate for writing this article in the first place needing to keep your mouths shut and think before you speak. Based on what I heard- their lyrics are living up to their name- lyrics with the depth that you may not be used to hearing. Ready chartattack writers? One, two, three: open mouths and insert feet! ; ) BTW- getting one more jab in to insult the band's name just shows your intelligence- not too high on the food chain are you? lol When you get a dose of your own karma coming back on you for being so judgemental, rude, obnoxious, and self righteous- then maybe you might figure out just what Crash Karma means- and I have a feeling that solaris24 just set the ball in motion for himself/herself. ; ) Laughing in the face of love= instant karma= gonna knock you right off your feet! : )
- LoveKarma33
- Fri, 06/12/2009 - 5:06am
Edwin/Tea Party/OLP Band Is For Real
02/05/09 6:19pm
by Kate Harper (CHARTattack)
Edwin will play his final Toronto solo show on Feb. 25 before Crash Karma, the new band he's in with former Our Lady Peace guitarist Mike Turner and ex-Tea Party drummer Jeff Burrows, release their debut album.
The former I Mother Earth singer will play his last show at the Duncan Street location of Toronto's Grace O'Malley's pub. Tickets are $10 and available at the bar. Special guests will apparently be announced later. Edwin is no stranger to bars, as he's a bartender at Toronto's Tattoo Rock Parlour.
Crash Karma are putting the finishing touches on their debut album.
The arrival of the new band will mark 10 years since Edwin's Another Spin Around The Sun solo album went platinum in Canada. The Tea Party's Triptych record went double-platinum and Turner's last album with OLP — Spiritual Machines — also came out that year.
No other information is available about Crash Karma's debut, but we'll be sure to let you know when we find out more. We know you're just itching for the deets.
Long live '90s Can-rock!
So, My question is what changed your mind in only 4 months time? Did you stop by his bar for a drink when he was bartending and get rejected or something? Just a thought since you and the lemon sucker seemed to be all for them and now suddenly you think him, his band name, and his band are ridiculous. Isn't that you saying? "Long live '90's Can-rock! It doesn't say Cant- rock or has beens, so what happened Kate?
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Thornley and Crash Karma ... nice !!!