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Phish Fans Are Weak Drug Users

03/10/09 12:09pm

by Steve McLean (CHARTattack)

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Phish fans are either getting straighter or smarter. It's probably not the latter.

About 75,000 of them attended Phish's three-night stand at the Hampton Coliseum in Hampton, Va. over the weekend. It was the first time the jam band had performed together in almost five years, and the show was a teaser for a tour that's scheduled to start in June.

Of those 75,000 concert-goers, 194 were arrested — primarily for drug possession, use and distribution. Police say they also confiscated about $1.2 million worth of illegal drugs and more than $68,000 in cash. While that may initially sound like a lot, let's do some math:

Take the estimated attendance and divide it by the number of arrests, and it turns out that just 0.26 per cent of Phish fans were collared by the man.

Now take the value of the narcotic seizure and divide it by the number of arrests. It works out to $6,185 per person. Even if you assume not everyone who got their stash taken away was arrested, which would decrease that value, it's still a high number.

Divide the amount of cash confiscated, which you'd assume would have to be from transactions police witnessed or else they'd have no way of proving the money was drug-related, by the number of arrests. It comes out to $350 per person.

If you assume the drug of choice for most hippie Phish fans is marijuana, and that an ounce sells for $150 to $320 depending on the quality, it works out to one or two ounces per person caught making a deal.

So what can we conclude from all of this?

If just 0.26 per cent of concert attendees were arrested for drugs, it could be that Phish fans are pretty savvy about avoiding detection. I don't think they're that clever, so maybe there weren't that many true stoners in attendance.

If each person arrested had more than $6,000 worth of goodies, he or she obviously wasn't selling their wares too quickly — which suggests a lack of willing customers.

The per-person value of the cash seized by the cops works out to 35 dime bags, which would easily fit in those baggy pants with the big pockets favoured by many hippies. That isn't much — just enough to share with their friends who they rented a school bus with to get to the gig.

So while the mainstream media may raise an alarm about rampant narcotics use as a result of Phish's return to the stage, it actually turns out — according to the hard, scientific data presented above — that jam band fans aren't getting as high as many of us would expect.

Come on, hippies, it's the 40th anniversary of Woodstock this year. Get out of your mini vans and celebrate it the way they did back then. Make Wavy Gravy proud.

Let's hope we can get better drug bust tallies from these Phish reunion shows:

June 4-5 Wantagh, NY @ Nikon at Jones Beach Theater
June 6 Mansfield, MA @ Comcast Center
June 7 Camden, NJ @ Susquehanna Bank Center
June 9 Asheville, NC @ Asheville Civic Center
June 10 Knoxville, TN @ Thompson-Boling Arena
June 12, 14 Manchester, TN @ Bonnaroo Music & Arts Festival
June 16 St. Louis, MO @ Fox Theatre
June 18 Burgettstown, PA @ Post Gazette Pavilion
June 19 Indianapolis, IN @ Verizon Wireless Music Center
June 20-21 East Troy, WI @ Alpine Valley Music Theater

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  • Rain
  • Tue, 03/10/2009 - 2:30pm

Actually, when you compare these numbers to a similar crowd size at Coventry and even bigger numbers at Bonnaroo, the amount of arrests are simply embarassing to Phish fans.

Phish Arrests Make Phish Phans Look Ridiculous

Simply dividing the drug use between the people in attendance is not an accurate way to figure out if the drug use was rampant or not. You need to compare the arrests to other types of events. I'm a Phish fan, too, but we need to be real about it.

  • bigmix
  • Tue, 03/10/2009 - 6:21pm

"hard scientific data"?  What are you talking about?  What you have actually done is presented a soft assumption based on non-scientific calculations.  You forgot to factor in that cops tend to greatly exaggerate both the value of drugs and the amount of cash confiscated during an arrest. 

 

You also assume that all 194 arrests were of people selling pot.  What about the other popular drugs at concerts: ecstasy, acid, mushrooms, etc.  Shouldn't those factor in?  In fact, some might argue that you should assume the arrests were for the hard stuff and not for marijuana.  Wouldn't that make some sense.

You also assume that all 194 arrests are for distribution, when in fact many of them were arrested for "possession" and "use."  

You make waaaaay too many assumptions to call your conclusion "hard scientific data." 

I prefer the conclusion you reject: Phish phans are smarter.  They are certainly older, most of them being happily in their 30s now.  When you reach that age, and start having kids and other responsibilities, you discover that you can do your drugs discreetly and have as much fun as doing it out in the open and risking arrest!

On to Jones Beach!

  • Sarah Kurchak
  • Tue, 03/10/2009 - 9:57pm
But if Phish fans are smarter, then why are they still listening to Phish?
  • lifeboy13
  • Thu, 03/12/2009 - 8:12am

Ha Ha. I get a total laugh out of this story.  Perhaps if your were there all 3 nights like I was you'd know that drug use was definately still just as prevalent as it was 10 years ago.

  The cops can fight it, slow it, profit from it, but never really hurt it.  If they siezed 1.2 Million in drugs then that just means that there was about 30 million that they missed.  People were crazy to see these shows Fake tickets and drugs were everywhere.  Add that to the number of totally obvious undercovers and Blue shirted police and you get a sketchy scene that was hard to get comfortable in.  I had 3 undercovers parking thier asses 2 cars from me on Sunday for an hour.  Really made me uncomfortable even though I was legal.  Moslty the cops were looking for pills of exctasy, and at $20 a pill  means they probably found a few people with a few hundred pills to sell and that was the majority of the busts.  I saw one guy get jumped by 4 cops for 1 pill. 

  Phish phans take care of thier own community and towns this summer will be less likely to attack them and more likely to embrace them for the financial boom they bring.  Communities that let the fans do thier own thing will find that out. We roll into town buy up lots of hotel rooms, gas, food, and other suplies.  When we leave we even pick up our trash.  Leave us alone and we won't burden you with anything other than counting your money. 

  • captain
  • Sat, 06/06/2009 - 10:48pm
Just finished three tour dates of phish @ jones Beach and yes the drug use is still strong. I hear from a source that over 100 arrests were made, all for drugs, during the tour stop. The  Park Police at jones beach were everywhere! One guy who got busted for Nitrous said he was never going back to Jones Beach, even if it was to chill and go swimming, plus there is no were to crash for the night after the show. I saw hippie crack everywhere, there was X, H, pills, lsd, and weed all over.  I guess there is no stopping the hard core phish fans from wanting to feel a little different and jammin to the music.
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